A Dialogue on EJP's Jesuitical Racism

Re: Brother Nick Booth / Brother Maxi's Separation Thanks to the Cultic Sectarian Racist/Dominionist Doctrine of Eric Phelps.
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Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:27 PM
Dear friends

While I do not agree with everything Maxi says I absolutely defend his right to speak it & see his correspondent's epistle as the very "cop out" that he alleges to be the "reality" behind Maxi's methodology of reaching input>process>output (grammar>logic>rhetoric; knowledge>understanding>wisdom) based conclusions, as contrasted with his own process-free, output-first contentions.

Whether Maxi has all the data necessary to provide an assessment to form the method to reach the most correct is a matter that must be treated on issue by issue basis, nevertheless his scholarship & comprehension of the all-too-easily-ignored problems that manmade, flawed traditions have made manifest & made by their breathing themselves into ideological existence false idols of themselves, is a challenge that quite frankly the disputing parties that he has dealt with recently have more than met their match in.

However: I will state though that whether the overt Trinitarian aspects within the New Testament are interpolations or not, I see a clear implied divine trinity within the Bible (all translations, even leaving the disputed passages to one side).

Now I do not take sides with the orthodox Constantinian Trinitarians nor the Monotarians (or whatever other name fits the bill) & consider all endless dialectics on this matter to be detractions from the centrepiece of Christ's imparted wisdom: the Sermon on the Mount. For me it is a both/and situation, not an either/or. Expecting one to fall into one camp or the other means a false choice between what I see as Judaic/Islamic Monotarianism (not exclusively the same as Monotheism) & orthodoxist Trinitarianism. That is all that I have to add to the matter.

Back to the disputed matters in Maxi's reposted correspondence: Continued Eric Phelps apologist Nick Booth refers to an "indirect inspiration" of the KJAV. Well "indirect" means that Man's translation - including obfuscation, distortion, oversimplification & outright error - must come into play. He then takes the either/or polemical rhetorical tactic of saying that his only other choice is to throw it into the trash. Despite my issues with the KJAV which I have made thoroughly clear in the past & have no intention of going into detail once again I do use this translation myself along with others & do not deny the beauty & power of the language, but will not let that blind me to its shortcomings & also realise that its rather baroque flourishes are a double edge sword that the Geneva translation makes only to clear. Nor is the Geneva perfect, but that is why God gave us intellect, to look deeper & both further develop that intellect & our spiritual insight.

Ignorant blind "belief" which does not follow up on the call to prove all things - which admittedly requires a willingness to develop both intellect & spirit & is not for the lazy - & thinks that it is enough to believe the false traditions (including interpretations) of others is to leave oneself open to believing lies & thus being the unwitting servant/dupe of the father of all lies.

As Maxi has discussed before, the Ashkenazi(m) can be shown to not be S(h)emites even by their own Book of Genesis' Table of Nations which reveals that Ashkenaz was the son of Gomer, the son of Japheth - Shem's brother, both being Noah's sons along with Ham. Thus we see the logical fallacy promoted by Eric Phelps, who seemingly holds the unreconcilable paradoxical positions of being both a self-declared Biblical uber-literalist & a promoter of the notion that the Ashkenazi(m) are actually S(h)emites. As they are not - by the very book that they recognise as & declare to be the first book of the Law - Shemites they cannot - unlike the descendants of Jacob - declare themselves to be Israelites, nor - unlike the descendants of Judah - declare themselves to be Judaeans.

Even allowing for these terms to be more broadly applicable to the occupants of these territories in the era of either the Old Testament or the New, we have no evidence that the descendants of Ashkenaz occupied those territories at any time prior to the 20th century of our era. Yet these Japhethites are able to live within Eric Phelps' proposed Probaptical yet not be able to breed with the other inhabitants, supposedly to keep their "Jewish" (which they aren't - see above) blood "pure". This is just endless diversionary construction put out to waste the time of all concerned either giving credence to an inherently fallacious proposition or to waste one's energy disputing it.

Maxi is probably as "white" as Eric Phelps, as Eric has self-admitted American Native blood & Maxi being self-admitted "half-Hispanic/half-white" must allow for the fact that Hispanic genes have a large amount of white in them tipping the balance way past the 50/50 mark. Would Maxi be allowed into Eric's Probaptical? Would Eric be allowed to stay in Probaptical? At the end of the day I see this Probaptical as being a dialectical tactic to get others to expend their energy on this world of matter ruled over by the father of all lies. While I agree with Eric's oft-spoken contention that "he who stands on his own rights takes away from no man" (I'm paraphrasing here, the precise wording eludes me at the moment, but that is the essential gist), I can also see far more problems than solutions being the outcome of this proposed "Utopia" (to use the term coined by that Papist nemesis of William Tyndale, "Sir" Thomas More, from the book of the same name). Just do a search for "amish beard cutting attacks" to see how things would almost certainly pan out (beards or no beards) in Probaptical. This piece for example: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060457/Latest-Amish-beard-cutting-attack-Son-attacked-father-scissors-holding-cutting-hair-beard.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Now the most telling line is actually in the comments: "Sounds like a government Co-Intelpro operation." Hmm, well I think that we could apply that to "Probaptical" too. Note that Eric Phelps' flag - & most particularly his further intentions for it as conveyed to myself in email before our disassociation in late 2010 - betrays a deep, occultic outlook that is at odds with his rhetoric & more in line with the black magic sorcery of his ostensible high Jesuit "opponents".

Peace be with you -

TS


On 15 Dec 2011, at 18:25, Douglas Willinger wrote:

> Cultic- Racist hits the proverbial nail on its head.
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> Such is a jesuitical seed to attempt to discredit the Protestant anti shadow government movement, designed to play right into their hands.
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> Douglas Willinger
> Continuing Counter Reformation
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> From: maxi aguaisol
> To: Troy ; Douglas Willinger ; Avenue of Light ; Nick Booth ; Samuel Benitez
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:03 PM
> Subject: Brother Nick Booth / Brother Maxi's Separation Thanks to the Cultic Sectarian Racist/Dominionist Doctrine of Eric Phelps.
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> The following is a conversation between brother Nick Booth and myself. This must not be understood as an attack against anyone, nor against Booth, nor against Phelps, but against certain doctrines. It is not an act of revenge because "the revenge belongs to God" (Romans 12:19). It's sole purpose is to illustrate and exemplify how works the fanaticism in the anti-Jesuit movement. There is available much information that succinctly proofs that the material racism, the King James version of the Bible, and the doctrine of the trinity, are not Biblical, then ¿why there is some many people that still believe in these doctrines? Is thanks to the fear of mens, emotionalism and peer pressure that some christians fall into both spiritual/biblical and material/scientifical fallacies like these. The modern era is still in adolescence, and unless it matures, it can not defend itself from the ravages of evil. Therefore we must not destroy but promote the debates, because if the debate is denies then the Freedoms of Expressión and Concience are denied. That's why i publish this, becouse i can not kill the debate. In Christ - Brother Maxi.
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> [For documentations about the issues discussed in this conversation please visit the following links:
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> Regarding the King James Version of the Bible: The King James Only Resource Center, The KJV-Only Issue, The KJV-Only Debate Blog, The King James Only Movement, New Age Bible Versions Refuted, A Response to William Schnoebelen's Conversion to KJV Onlyism, Texe Marrs Demonstrates Yet Once Again That Facts and Logic Mean Nothing When A Conspiracy Is At Stake, The Westcott and Hort Resource Centre.
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> Regarding the doctrine of Material Racism: One Blood: The Biblical Answer to Racism, Is Christianity a white man's religion?, Ph.D., Theo.D., William Lane Craig Response to the question: "Is Christianism a White Man's Religion?", What does the Bible say about ethnocentrism?.
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> Regarding the doctrine of the Trinity: A history of the origin of the doctrine of the Trinity in the Christian church, The Trinity Defined and Refuted.]
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> Nick Booth
> Nick Booth
> Dear Maxi,
> It pains me to have to say this but I think we should cease communication. This pains me bacause I have considered you a friend/brother Why do I want to not communicate? Because I consider Eric Jon Phelps a brother/ friend, he is the one I first heard the Gospel from. Therefore I will be forever grateful to him for this. I already talked to Doug, and told him that I have not interest of communication after he called Eric a "Racist". I already heard you say that "only God knows why" you haven't brought up your issues with him up til now. Frankly I think that is sort of a cop out. I remember you having no problem with the idea of ProBatical, or a nation in South America for Spanish speaking Christians? Also not until recently have you denied the Triune Godhead: of God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit.. This is different than the false counterfeit "Trinity" of the Roman Catholic Church which is of course Isis, Horus, and Set. If I can't believe the translation of the AV1611 KJV to be correct and indirectly inspired by God, I might as well throw it in the trash. Doe not God preserve what he inspired?
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> I agree there are two spiritual races. You are either a "son of disobedience" of the Devil, or a "son of God" by believing on the name of his "only begotten Son" the Lord Jesus Christ. However I will always be identified as White, and you for instance as Hispanic. There is no escaping that fact. Why should we not want to preserve our peoples and our cultures. I never said people of different backgrounds can't worship together.
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> I wish no animosity or hatred. I just think we should disassociate.
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> Regards,
> Nick
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> I already expect you to label me "antichrist" though I don't call you that.
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> Maximiliano Aguaisol
> Maximiliano Aguaisol
> Nick i had never read this until now, i guess i don't care much about Facebook... Ok, i understand your position, that is, to follow the first men that convince you, and to not first properly "prove all things". If i does not disagreed with EJP in the past was becouse the past is not the present, in the same way that you don't do the exact things like as one o more years before. I will pray for God and i only ask to you that you only make your own and complete and impartial investigation regarding the following falacies and lies: "that God the Father is not One, but 3 persons", "that the KJV 1611 is a perfectly translated Bible", "that the Bible does not condemns the concept of material racism", "that God wants the christians dominate and rule nations", etc. Finally if you don't want communication, therefore you don't want the truth, becouse even the apostles and christians of the 1st century preached and debated to all mens. This is not a christian attitude. Although that i understand in the position in which you are and i understand you... Again, i will pray to the Father to by with you and to help you. Finally, i can not label you as an "antichrist" becouse i believe you already accepted Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. There is no biblical basis in which i would be able to call you in that way. As me, i will follow God, not mens. In Christ, Brother Maxi [Postdata: i am 1/2 "hispanic" 1/2 white]
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