Romney Crony Capitalism on Cannabis

Romney 2007



Romney 2012



In both videos, Romney is OK with medicinal MJ only when it is synthetic. So its not the chemistry or effects of MJ he objects, rather he objects to people being able to grow their own MJ cheaper than buying the synthetic version

Ignores the sacred words about using the herbs of the earth.

Mormonism being a false religion makes false judgements about Marijuana adopting the beliefs that were only popularized under the generalship of Wlodimir Ledochowski

Fear is discussing marijuana and the irrational satanic bigotry engendered since the time of Ledowchwski is a mark of the spiritual rot with that which considers itself Christian.

That includes the "Christian" reluctance to discuss ethnogens, such as the repression of psychedelics and the subsequent promotion of refined cocaine.

Such is why I would warn about cults as Mormonism or any other "Christian" or "Jewish" or "Islamic" or anything else denomination supporting or acquiescing to that pharma-cigarette market protection racket of the so called war on drugs. The drug war is the achillees hee; of the established religions revealing them to be a part of the world ruled by Satan from Corinthians:

4In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 5For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. 6For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Or any church behaving as such, which means most.

More on Romney's Support of Criminal Mercantilism
http://freedomofmedicineanddiet.blogspot.com/2012/01/romney-criminal-mercantism-for-pharma.html

'Evangelicals' Lose Credibility in South Carolina

Results for South Carolina Republican Primary (U.S. Presidential Primary)

Jan 21, 2012 (100% of precincts reporting)

Newt Gingrich	243,153	40.4%
Mitt Romney	167,279	27.8%
Rick Santorum	102,055	17%
Ron Paul	77,993	13%
Rick Perry	2,494	0.4%
Other	8,192	1.4%

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/south-carolina-primary-speeches-in-60-seconds-057/2012/01/21/gIQAMQVLHQ_video.html#

South Carolina Evangelicals choose a infidel convert to Roman Catholicism over a dedicated family man because the latter is a Mormon.

Both Gingrich and Romney are despicable crony capitalists who push mass human rights violations for a continuing criminal mercantilism against freedom of medicine and diet.

Both Gingrich and Romney are despicable war-mongers that would be easily seduced into being pawns of the Vatican led Georgetown University School of Foreign Service leading us to another semi-secreted war of religion.

Strangely they ignore nominally 'Protestant' Ron Paul who supports States Powers to ban or regulate abortion, yet does not subscribe to the level of war mongering of the others, come in last place, even behind Roman Catholic Rick Santorum.

Events as these in North Carolina speak volumes about an 'Evangelical' movement that has gone entirely APOSTATE.

20:12 Prophecy

THE HIDDEN "2012" PROPHECY: REVELATION 20:12: THE LAST JUDGEMENT:

"…THE DEAD… STAND BEFORE GOD…AND…WERE JUDGED ACCORDING TO THOSE THINGS…IN THE BOOKS…"
Rev.20:12

[1] And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
[2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
[3] And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
[5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
[6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
[7] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
[8] And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
[9] And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
[10] And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
[11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
[12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
[13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
[14] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
[15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Papist Mormon Glenn Beck

Is awfully defensive of U.S. Presidential candidate Opus Dei Rick Santorum

http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/01/09/rick-santorum-is-going-to-ban-condoms-and-birth-control-pills/

Is Rick Santorum’s religion the only thing that the mainstream media attack dogs can find to focus on? After all, George Stephanopoulos questions at the latest debate would lead viewers to believe that Santorum, a Catholic, would ban contraception if he became President! With elected officials all but holding a match to the Constitution – how is THIS the question they felt Rick Santorum needed to answer? Next thing you know they’ll be asking him if his loyalties are to The Pope over the country. Glenn got an ABC News official on the phone to explain the ridiculous questions!

One only needs to look at such things as the planning of Washington, D.C., let alone the horrific wars of religion through such Vatican tools as 1993-2001 U.S. President Bill Clinton, to see that Glenn Beck behaves like a childish fraternity brother who well understands that one must lie to get ahead in such a political system.

http://continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.com/2012/01/one-of-reasons.html

http://continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.com/2011/07/up-front-hidden-in-plain-sight.html

Housewreckers Romney & the ex. Mrs Tiger Woods

Romney to follow the lead of the ex. Mrs Tiger Woods (Elin Nordegren)- and waste a mansion!

Remember that if one considers Nordegren a money waster- then what about Romney?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083002/Mitt-Romney-19-demonstrated-favour-Vietnam-War-draft.html

It recently emerged that Mr Romney has plans to quadruple the size of his $12 million California home.

The 64-year-old filed an application in San Diego, California, to bulldoze his 3,009-square-foot oceanfront mansion in La Jolla and replace it with an 11,062-square-foot property.

A campaign official said that the GOP hopeful was planning the expansion as the home he bought three years ago 'is inadequate for their needs'.

The Romneys' official primary residence is a town house outside Boston. They also own a $10million vacation home on the shore of Lake Winnipesaukee in New Hampshire.

The couple sold the 6,400-square-foot home in Belmont, Massachusetts, where they raised their children, in 2009 for $3.5million.

In addition, their 9,500-square-foot ski lodge in Deer Valley, Utah, fetched $5.25million last year.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083002/Mitt-Romney-19-demonstrated-favour-Vietnam-War-draft.html#ixzz1ipBamzhF


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/06/elin-nordegren-tiger-woods-exwife-home-demolition_n_1189393.html

NORTH PALM BEACH, Fla. — The oceanfront mansion Tiger Woods' ex-wife purchased for $12.3 million has been demolished and she is planning to build a new home.

The Palm Beach Post ( ) reports that Elin Nordegren (EE'-lihn NOHRD'-grihn) plans to build on the North Palm Beach lot she bought last year. The lot is about 140 miles southeast of Woods' home in Orlando. http://bit.ly/Avza2Z

The newspaper reports the mansion that was demolished was a two-story, 17,000-square-foot-home built in 1932. It had a swimming pool and an elevator.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/jolla-335061-romney-make.html?pic=1

Papist Loyalist Santorum's Post Gingrich Surge

Santorum's 2nd Place in the Iowa Caucuses (by one vote- reported CNN 1:38 AM)following Newt Gingrich's fall in the polls, as the most overt Papist Loyalist running for U.S. President

From Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eileen-mcmenamin/will-santorums-surge-trav_b_1182273.html

Will Santorum's Surge Travel?
Eileen McMenamin

Senator Rick Santorum's last-minute surge in Iowa just days before the first 2012 caucuses has some people scratching theirs heads, wondering how a candidate who was polling in the single digits only weeks ago is now widely predicted to finish in the top three in tonight's GOP contest.

As the socially conservative wing of the Republican party has continued to shop around for an alternative to Governor Mitt Romney, they've browsed through a number of candidates -- Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, Governor Rick Perry, businessman Herman Cain, and former House speaker Newt Gingrich -- before quickly losing interest and moving on. The wheel seems to have stopped at Santorum, who has jumped in recent polls -- this week's Des Moines Register poll showed him at 15 percent overall but as high as 22 percent on the last night of polling, compared to single digits in earlier polls. What accounts for this late surge? His blue-collar populist appeal on issues like manufacturing and jobs, combined with his focus on morality and preserving the traditional family, has struck a chord with conservative Iowa voters. Santorum has spent much of the past year traveling the state and holding over 375 town hall meetings, highlighting his wife and their seven children as well as his religious beliefs....


From Endr Times:

http://endrtimes.blogspot.com/2012/01/knight-and-dame-of-magistral-grace-of.html

Photo (Courtesy) http://early-onset-of-night.tumblr.com/post/6502308112/our-abortion-was-different-when-the-anti-choice

Santorum and his family usually attend Latin Mass at Saint Catherine of Siena Church, near Washington, D.C. On November 12, 2004, Santorum and his wife were invested as Knight and Dame of Magistral Grace of the Knights of Malta in a ceremony at St. Patrick's Cathedral, New York.^[132] Santorum traveled in 2002 to Rome to speak at a centenary celebration of the birth of Saint Josemaria Escriva, founder of Opus Dei.^[133][134] In an interview with the National Catholic Reporter while in Rome, Santorum said that the distinction between private religious conviction and public responsibility, espoused by [a presumably disloyal for any of a number of reasons, such as his policies concerning Vietnam, his challenge to the Federal Reserve, or even this,] President John F. Kennedy, had caused "great harm in America." [bold added]

All of us have heard people say, 'I privately am against abortion, homosexual marriage, stem cell research, cloning. But who am I to decide that it's not right for somebody else?' It sounds good, but it is the corruption of freedom of conscience.^[133]

He also said he regards George W. Bush as the first Catholic president of the United States:

From economic issues focusing on the poor and social justice, to issues of human life, George Bush is there. He has every right to say, 'I’m where you are if you're a believing Catholic.'^{[135][133][136]}

READ MORE on Wiki

One of the Reasons?

to push the freeways away from Catholic University of America and Georgetown University

http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2011/12/within-beltway.html





See the botching of the planning of I-95 through Washington, D.C. starting in 1963 months after the U.S. President issued a report for I-95 to run near Catholic University of America:
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2010/05/1960s-washington-dc-freeway-planning.html

Late 1963-1964 study DISREGARDS JFK's prescription for freeway to hug RR
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2007/05/1964-north-central-freeway-routing_08.html

Federal City Council subverts support for DC I-95 (mere weeks before 'supplementary' report faithful to JFK 1962 B&O Route) by calling for the disastrous 1964 route as "cheaper" (though a longer route taking 471 houses rather then some 30)
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2010/05/fallacy-of-federal-city-councils.html

Officials fail to commit to JFK B&O railroad route, waffling towards disastrous 1964 plan, as late as 1968 (the year that USNCPC reversed itself and went against freeway)
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2010/05/significence-of-waffling-on-b-north.html

Letter to Maryland Governor Agnew, 1967 on how waffling on North Central Freeway planning was inciting opposition.

Citizens of Takoma Park and Silver Spring had reason for their demonstrations of bitter dissatisfaction with the highway authorities of your predecessor's administration. After we had been given reason to believe that the causes of our protests had been in at least some part overcome, the matter now threatens to break into renewed bitterness. I am sure you will wish to avoid this as much as many of us.

We showed that the methods of traffic projections which were claimed to justify the North Central were fallacious, the results in error by as much as 400 percent. Our contention was tacitly admitted in "re-studied" versions of the proposal made public last year, sharply reducing the original plan of 5 lanes each way.

The re-studied proposal also tacitly admitted that the route first proposed was needlessly, even carelessly if not ruthlessly, destructive of our communities. The new version hugged both sides of the existing Baltimore and Ohio railway, thus avoiding a new swath of destruction to divide our communities and sharply reducing the number of homes to be taken.

The reduced, re-routed proposal was made public last year with endorsement of D.C. And Maryland highway authorities. The D.C. Portion was forced through the National Capital Planning Commission by votes of representatives of the D.C. Highway Department and of the U.S. Bureau of Public Roads. From this we concluded, reasonably enough, that the highway authorities of the two jurisdictions (Maryland and D.C.) had reached a firm understanding with the Bureau of Public Roads.

Many of us were therefore astonished and aroused to preparations for renewed protests when Washington newspapers recently reported that the Bureau has acted to open it all up again. We have not found the Bureau forthcoming with candid information, but the press articles intimate an intention to force Maryland to accept modifications of route or design ostensibly "cheaper."

The result is that the whole controversy, which had been somewhat quiescent, is beginning to agitate the communities again. I can assure you this is so, for although I recently resigned chairmanship of the Metropolitan Citizens Council for Rapid Transit and write this simply as an individual citizen who wishes your administration well, I do remain in close touch with neighborhood sentiment on transportation-related issues.

And afterwards that Washington, D.C. powerhouse law firm Covington & Burling PAYS for anti-freeway riots in the DC City Council
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2009/10/ectc-paid-to-riot-via-covington-burling.html

Who Really Stopped Washington, D.C.'s Freeways
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2008/12/who-really-stopped-washington-dcs.html

Political Mass Within The Beltway
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2010/09/washington-dcs-supreme-bridge-builder.html

A Sampling of Attitudes Towards D.C. I-95
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2007/02/sampling-of-attitudes-towards-dc-i-95.html

These were a group of black-clothed priests that attended my June 5, 2005 presentation near Catholic University of America, at the Archbishop Carroll High School through the D.C. NE Historical Society. My presentation was "The Never-Built Freeways of Northeast D.C.: The Plans and the Controversy, Part I" by Douglas A. Willinger of the Takoma Park Highway Design Studio. IIRC, these men were identified to me as Jesuits: members of the Jesuit Order, established by Ignatius Loyola in 1543 to counter the Protestant Reformation, via strategizing to further and expand the power of the Vatican/Roman Catholic Church....

I remember two of these men in particular, one white haired elderly, described to me as liking to jump on the bandwagon rather then think for himself, and a young, dark haired, reddish complexion one – too young to have been more then a child when D.C. I-95 was canceled in 1968-1973 – who appeared to me to be of mixed Irish and German ancestry. It was he who expressed the astonishment that they were actually going to run I-95 through Washington, D.C., as if that was somehow unfathomable. He did not appear too pleased to hear me discuss its feasibility, even as I acknowledged the shortcomings of the earlier designs (and that I felt it was right to stop those earlier specific plans, such as the 1964 plan’s demolition of Brooks Mansion).

Figuring that these men had an interest in what they would likely call “social justice” matters, I ended my laptop projection presentation with my own example of activism: the South Capitol Street/ Frederick Douglass Mall, and its desecration by the atrociously placed Nationals Ball Park Stadium, with the visual image of the stamp-pair that I had created with Ian Goddard in early 2005. I looked forward to an interesting discussion.


http://wwwsouthcapitolstreet.blogspot.com/2007/12/south-capitol-street-frederick-douglass.html

http://wwwsouthcapitolstreet.blogspot.com/2006/07/physical-reality-only-structure-along_22.html

Instead there was only a cold silence.

Such so far reflects the general attitude of the authorities towards any urban freeways.

JFK Gave Us the "Y" Route I-70S-I-95 B&O RR Route D.C. North Central Freeway
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2010/05/jfk-administration-gave-us-b-north.html

Recommendations for Transportation in the National Capital Region: A Report to the President for transmittal to Congress by the National Capital Transportation Agency November 1, 1962

At page 44:

Significance of Using B&O Route. Use of the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad corridor to bring Routes 70-S and 95 into the city is the key to meeting the need for additional highway capacity in northern Washington, Montgomery County and northwestern Prince Georges Counties and at the same time avoiding the substantial relocation of persons, loss of taxable property and disruption of neighborhoods that would result from construction of the Northeast, North Central and Northwest Freeway proposed in the 1959 plan. Further savings are realized by placing the rapid transit line to Silver Spring and Queen’s Chapel in the same railroad corridor.

And, at pages 25-26:

Three Sisters Bridge In the 1959 plan, Three Sisters Island Bridge was part of an intermediate loop (located between the Capital Beltway and the proposed inner loop) that virtually circled the city. The Agency's studies show no need for the portion of the intermediate loop between the Potomac River and the Soldiers Home area. Standing alone, the only purpose of Three Sisters would to bring trucks and additional auto traffic from Fairfax and Arlington Counties into downtown. For that purpose the bridge is not required.

As of 1957, there were a total of 22 bridge lanes across the Potomac River. Projects now under construction, or recently completed, will nearly double the number of such lanes ... [while] The Agency proposes two rail rapid transit lines to Virginia, one of which would serve the Three Sisters Bridge corridor. Rapid transit service would not have been provided in this corridor under the 1959 plan. With such service available, in 1980 a total of over 30,000 people - many of whom would otherwise be using their autos - would use public transportation from Virginia into the District in the morning peak hour, enough to fill 12 bridge lanes ... The result, as the following table shows, is that under the plan recommended by the Agency, central area bridge capacity will be adequate for the needs of motorists in 1980 without Three Sisters Bridge.

Yet a June 1, 1963 letter enumerates the cross town I-66 North Leg and Three Sisters Bridge as the most controversial segments require further study

“…I noted that certain portions of the highway network within the District of Columbia required further study. The guidelines which I believe should be followed in this re-examination are as follows:

The re-examination should focus upon the sections of the highway plans which have from the beginning been the most uncertain and the most controversial- the North Leg of the Inner Loop and the Three Sisters Bridge, both of which involve the manner in which necessarily involve a re-study of those additional portions of the plan which are directly affected by the conclusions reached in the re-examination…”

Since his November 1962 report had rejected the Three Sisters Bridge, his June 1963 letter calling for that bridge's 're-examination' meant that it might be needed, hence having JFK place freeways alongside Catholic University of America and Georgetown University.

Cancelled D.C. I-95 next to Catholic University of America

The canceled I-266 Three Sisters Bridge- pointing at Georgetown University

If only JFK had not been assassinated, he would have asked why J.E. Greiner dissed his prescription for the freeway to hug the railroad centrally located between the Potomac River and the eastern portion of the I-495 Capital Beltway, hence resulting in the freeways' political demonification. JFK specified the B&O Route, as "the key", to bringing I-70S and I-95 into Washington, D.C. "avoiding the substantial relocation of persons, loss of taxable property and disruption of neighborhoods that would result from construction of the Northeast, North Central and Northwest Freeway proposed in the 1959 plan"; yet the 1964 Greiner 'North Central Freeway' report excluded it, instead offering an upwards of 37 routes each with a far far higher amount of local impacts, akin to that in the 1959 planning. And it offers up a recommended route partially along the railroad but with serious deviations upon longer routes in Takoma Park Maryland and to a lesser degree in Brookland, D.C., creating mass opposition.

Apparently, none of the media outlets asked why the 1963-64 North Central Freeway engineering study report, released in October 1964, so deviated from JFK's proposal. In researching the history of Washington, D.C.'s un-built freeways I have yet to see this question about the Greiner report's betrayal of the JFK freeway plan addressed.

A Dialogue on King James & The Bible

On the ceiling of the Banqueting House, Rubens depicted James being carried to heaven by angels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_VI_and_I

RE: EXCELLENT SHORT VIDEO EXPOSING KING JAMES VI/I'S SELF-DECLARED CATHOLIC BELIEF THAT MARY (HIS MOTHER'S NAME) IS "THE MOTHER OF GOD" - SURPRISE, SURPRISE … 1

FROM:

• maxi aguaisol

TO:

• Avenue of Light
• Douglas Willinger
• Troy

Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:51 PM

Do you mean: the manuscripts? Well, if God can fulfill and preserve his word while the man can't... then NOT ALL manuscripts (i say "manuscripts" not "versions") are "manipulated" (altered or modified). Also, the alterations can be discovered, and actually are and was discovered. By example the Comma Johanneum in 1 John 5:7, etc, etc. Re-member folks, the work based in faith made by Tyndale, Wycliffe, Westcott & Hort, and others... is not finished, and as for almost 1500 years the Bible was not able to all, today the full and progresive truth of the Bible is not able for all. That's why we must finish the job to have a well translated Bible. But as some of you said: the tradition controls the flesh.

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Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:50:13 -0500
Subject: Re: EXCELLENT SHORT VIDEO EXPOSING KING JAMES VI/I'S SELF-DECLARED CATHOLIC BELIEF THAT MARY (HIS MOTHER'S NAME) IS "THE MOTHER OF GOD" - SURPRISE, SURPRISE …
From: avenueoflight@gmail.com
To: dmaxi_gsl@hotmail.com

RIGHT... ALL HAVE BEEN MANIPULATED...

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 9:28 PM, maxi aguaisol <dmaxi_gsl@hotmail.com> wrote:
And now that we have even more better manuscripts that those in the past, the King James Bible is still used to destroy the new Bible Versions. And this is also truth.

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Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:23:07 -0500
Subject: Fwd: EXCELLENT SHORT VIDEO EXPOSING KING JAMES VI/I'S SELF-DECLARED CATHOLIC BELIEF THAT MARY (HIS MOTHER'S NAME) IS "THE MOTHER OF GOD" - SURPRISE, SURPRISE …
From: avenueoflight@gmail.com
To: Avenueoflight@gmail.com

AT LEAST THERE IS ENOUGH FOR SALVATION IN IT'S PAGES.... IT WAS ONLY CREATED BECAUSE IT'S HIDDEN PURPOSE WAS TO DESTROY THE GENEVA BIBLE... THAT IS THE TRUTH!

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From: TS <troy_space@me.com>
Date: Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: EXCELLENT SHORT VIDEO EXPOSING KING JAMES VI/I'S SELF-DECLARED CATHOLIC BELIEF THAT MARY (HIS MOTHER'S NAME) IS "THE MOTHER OF GOD" - SURPRISE, SURPRISE …
To: Maxi Aguaisol <dmaxi_gsl@hotmail.com>
Cc: Avenue of Light <avenueoflight@gmail.com>, Douglas Willinger <dougwill2001@yahoo.com>

I actually wonder if he (James VI/I) may have secretly harboured an even more serious "God-complex" than even his "divine right of kings" doctrine suggests (worth reading through the first few paragraphs at least of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_right_of_kings), with his Roman Catholic mother being called Mary & James declaring his Romish belief that the Virgin Mary was "the Mother of God"?

On 4 Dec 2011, at 01:08, maxi aguaisol wrote:

Hahaha, there you go. And knowing that the fanatics KJV-O's hates so much the "apologetics" they can not even try to refute this, although irrefutable as it seems. Never the less, even if this is true, which i believe it is (namely, that King James VI/V was pro-jesuitical and pro-romanist), it's no proper manner to refute the King James Onlyism. The only way to do it is by using the manuscripts in greek and other ancient lenguages preserved by God. A smile is in my face for this video, but i see it just like a colateral or a indirect attack. But if we are going to use indirect attacks, then let's gonna use all the ammo, remembering a thing that i asked several times to Phelps and he never aswer to me, that: THE VIRGINIA COMPANY WAS CREATED BY ING JAMES I.

http://www.preservationvirginia.org/rediscovery/page.php?page_id=22

Virginia Company

The Virginia Company was formed with a charter from King James I in 1606. The Company was a joint stock corporation charged with the settlement of Virginia. It had the power to appoint the Council of Virginia, the Governor and other officials, and the responsibility to provide settlers, supplies, and ships for the venture. The initial reaction to the Company was favorable, but as the mortality rate rose and the prospect for profit grew dim, the support for it waned. The leadership resorted to lotteries, searching for gold, and silkworm production to increase profits. The charter was finally revoked in 1624 and Virginia became a Crown colony [Maxi's note: KJ died in 1625], largely as a result of the Indian Massacre of 1622.

The seal of the Virginia Company is on the right.

In Yahweh, through Christ.
Brother Maxi.

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Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:53:07 -0500
Subject: Re: EXCELLENT SHORT VIDEO EXPOSING KING JAMES VI/I'S SELF-DECLARED CATHOLIC BELIEF THAT MARY (HIS MOTHER'S NAME) IS "THE MOTHER OF GOD" - SURPRISE, SURPRISE …
From: avenueoflight@gmail.com
To: troy_space@me.com

Correct Troy, as I know well, James was a Roman Sympathizer without question; but MOST cannot accept this;(it is the bible I use)!!!!!!!! same as the Babylonian trinity, Amen, christ-MASS, Jesuit created rapture doctrine hoax, UNfilfilled 70th week (rapture-hoax) on and on... All one can do is put the truth out there... just as the founding of this nation and the internal dissention as viewed by most as being from the outside; but in reality, it is from it's founders from within. MOST will NEVER accept this FACTUAL, DOCUMENMTED, HISTORICALLY PROVEN, WRITTEN UNDISPUTED EVIDENCE I have continually submitted.... All hold to the traditiions and customs of men, their fathers, pastors, family, friends, relatives,,,etc

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:18 PM, TS <troy_space@me.com> wrote:

EXCELLENT SHORT VIDEO EXPOSING KING JAMES VI/I'S SELF-DECLARED CATHOLIC BELIEF THAT MARY (HIS MOTHER'S NAME) IS "THE MOTHER OF GOD" - SURPRISE, SURPRISE …

VIDEO LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MfJ1EkD7Eg

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SOURCES:

David Matthew, James I, (University of Alabama Press, 1968), pp. 186-187

Online Version of King James' "Premonition":
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=6&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1…

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For further information on James' links to the Jesuit/Roman nexus see the archive of otherwise unavailable forum posted research of mine:

http://continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.com/2011/01/masonic-king-james.html

- TS

A Dialogue on Biblical Text Sources

Dear friends & brothers in the Spirit

All of the energy expended in debating whether or not these versions are acceptable or not would probably be better turned to learning more about the earliest manuscripts still extant. Such as:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_uncials

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_papyri

Where we learn that scripture written on papyri are generally the oldest of all such remnants of scripture, often no more than a few verses, often fragmentary (only one exists from the 2nd - or possibly 3rd - century: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncial_0189 - which is the oldest parchment manuscript of any New Testament text, a portion of the Acts of the Apostles), the other types being miniscules which were mostly written on parchment (& mostly slightly more recent from the 9th century with the newest being much less ancient) & lectionaries which were written a variety of materials such as parchment, papyrus, vellum & paper (the oldest of these is from the 7th century & the newest are also much less ancient).

Also: Devoting some time to being acquainted with some of the history & comparative merits of the codices (codexes) should be a focus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex), these are also "uncials". For example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Bezae

Some study on the matters pertaining to the Byzantine & Alexandrian text types should also be given importance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_text-type

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandrian_text-type

Please also study my posting from last night (which is a copy of an email that I sent to a former correspondent around one year ago), as the relatively new E.O.B. New Testament is in my opinion the most accurate New Testament translation to date, being derived from the earliest of Byzantine texts (the basis of the Geneva, the KJV by contrast being a thoroughly mixed combination of Byzantine & corrupted Alexandrian (via the undeniable & significant Douay-Rheims influence).

Especially worth reading is the piece at the bottom of my post, an article headed "Byzantine Text History".

Let's deal in scholarly discussion & go to the source(s), or at least the earliest materials of the text-types & consider the evidence as it presents itself in the light of critical thinking & honest analysis.

Peace be with you -

Troy

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>

PLEASE FIND BELOW SOME CORRESPONDENCE EXCERPTS OF MINE REGARDING MY RESEARCHES INTO BIBLE/N.T. TRANSLATIONS:

The EOB link is to a PDF text-based book, not an audio-book:

> http://www.orthodoxanswers.org/eob/download/eobntpublic.pdf

Note that I am not advocating the Eastern/Greek Orthodox church rituals & hierarchy as such, but giving this translation of the Byzantine text serious consideration, seeing as the Geneva (& thus the majority of the KJV - not including its Alexandrian-based Vulgate/Douay-Rheimsisms) is also Byzantine-based.
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The links that I just sent you (to the EOB NT, the Magiera Peshitta NT& the Tolle Lege Geneva 4th edition) are the fruits of much research. If I posted all the whys & wherefores of how I eliminated the other English translations of the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Koine Greek NT texts or the Peshitta Aramaic NT then I wouldn't have time to study them. Not having a go, just explaining that it is tough to cover all the bases that I wish to even for personal research.
...

I have also just received delivery of the following very new Eastern/Greek Orthodox Church English translation of the New Testament, the first decent translation into English (there are at least three other English translations that I know of, none of which I was particularly enthused to get) taken from the Byzantine-type "Patriarchal Text".

The Textus Receptus was also derived from the Byzantine texts & is the basis of the Geneva Bible; the KJV being largely derived from both the Geneva & the Latin Vulgate-derived Douay Rheims Roman Catholic translations. The Patriarchal text & Textus Receptus (both being Byzantine-type texts) are both different to the Alexandrian-type texts [as used in the numerous & varied translations derived from the Nestle-Aland-UBS "Critical Text"].

Have not had time to study/read the paper hard copy EOB, but did a fair bit of research before purchasing it.

Here's a PDF copy for you to download & peruse:

http://www.orthodoxanswers.org/eob/download/eobntpublic.pdf

The hardcopy is only available via the print-to-order outlet Lulu.com ( http://www.lulu.com/product/hardcover/eob-new-testament-6x9-hardcover/5004567 ).

Note that the colour artwork in the PDF version is printed as black & white in the hardcopy. Which for the price is surprising, but is probably explained by the fact that it is print-to-order from Lulu.com, who have a low overheads type operation.

My copy has a small "ding" in the back cover's edge, presumably from where postman tried to shove it through our front door mailbox (the shipping box had a big ding in it). I considered sending it back as it wasn't cheap (£25 plus shipping), but it is a hassle & as it is neither clothbound nor leather bound I am thinking that it is not worth being fussed about it. After all my Hendrickson 1560 Geneva Bible has got some coffee stains on the edge of the pages at the bottom of the book that I don't recall that happening, so things happen even on one's own watch! I prefer reading scripture from hard copy paper books than PDF's.

I also wish to get the Janet Magiera translation of the Aramaic Peshitta New Testament ( http://www.amazon.com/Aramaic-Peshitta-New-Testament-Translation/dp/096796136X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1297358079&sr=8-1 ). This appears to be the most scholarly translation of the Aramiac Peshitta NT, although I would suggest that it is also worth having a copy of George Lamsa's classic English translation of the Peshitta.
...

I hope to find some time this year to compare the EOB NT, Magiera's Peshitta NT with the Tolle Lege Geneva Bible. I still have to purchase the Tolle Lege edition of the Geneva. My Geneva hard copy is the Hendrickson hardback, which due to its weight & original 1560 spelling & layout gets used less than my computer PDF's of the Geneva! So I would recommend the 4th (& latest) Tolle Lege edition of the Geneva:

http://www.reformationbookstore.com/1599genevabiblehardback.aspx

& perhaps also the audio versions:

http://www.reformationbookstore.com/1599genevaaudiobible.aspx

Anyway, here's the EOB NT:

E.O.B. NEW TESTAMENT (THE EASTERN/GREEK ORTHODOX BIBLE, VOLUME III)

http://www.lulu.com/product/hardcover/eob-new-testament-6x9-hardcover/5004567

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God bless -

Troy

P.S.: Some info on the text that the EOB is based on is below:

http://www.orthodoxanswers.org/eob/about.asp

The New Testament (completed and available) is based on the official ecclesiastical text published in 1904 by the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople (again documenting all significant variants to the Critical Text, Majority Text and Textus Receptus). It also provides extensive footnotes and Appendices dealing with significant verses such as Matthew 16:18; John 1:1,18; John 15:26. The Patriarchal text was selected on Mount Athos from among a large number of reliable ecclesiastical manuscripts and appears to be identical or similar to Minuscule 1495 (KR subgroup).

http://www.standardbearers.net/R.D.html

Byzantine Text History
Why The ‘Patriarchal’ Text of Greek New Testament ?
By R.D. Dedman (April 2005) v1.1


What is the ‘Patriarchal’ Text of the New Testament?

It is the official text of the Greek speaking churches. This Greek New Testament, obtainable from http://kainh.homestead.com/English.html is the 1904 ‘Patriarchal’ edition of the Greek Orthodox Church.

“The Patriarchal text arose from the need for a uniform text throughout the Greek Orthodox Churches. During the Turkish occupation there were various editions of the NT with the result that in different places a different NT was read. To avoid this the Ecumenical Patriarchate appointed a committee in 1902 to decide on a text that would be adopted as the official text. The committee retired in Mount Athos and studied about 20 Byzantine manuscripts from which they decided on one taking into consideration some parts of the other manuscripts. This text was published in 1904 and it has been since then adopted by all Greek Orthodox Churches.” by Petros Petallides (kainh.homestead.com)


How was the New Testament Text Transmitted?

The Hebrew scriptures (“Old Testament”), were written and compiled over a long period (approx. 1450 – 400 BC). These Scriptures were entrusted for their keeping to the Jews (Romans 3:2). But that part of Scripture called the “New Testament” has been preserved in a different manner. Written in the common Greek (Koine Greek) language of the 1st century AD it was completed in a relatively short period following Jesus’ death and resurrection, probably by 90 AD. It was anapostolic production fulfilling the promise Jesus made to them prior to His death (John 15:27, 17:20). The apostles wrote as well as preached the truth.

Thus the Gospels, Acts, Letters, and later Revelation became copied and distributed, firstly, we may reasonably suppose, among the Christian communities themselves and later more broadly as non-Christians began to take notice. By the late-fourth century, however, knowledge of Greek was in sharp decline in the western half of the empire. A century later and knowledge of Greek had almost entirely vanished in the west. But the knowledge of Greek did not vanish in the eastern half of the empire. And it was within the Byzantine empire that the work of preserving the sacred Greek texts – copying and proof-reading – continued unabated, as we shall now see.


Why is the ‘Patriarchal’ Text Important?

Monks – the scholars of their day – first came to Mount Athos as early as the fifth century, according to the official history of Mount Athos.1 Monastries later became established and the number of manuscripts, including those of the NT, rapidly accumulated. The work of copying and transcribing manuscripts continued unabated at Mount Athos over the centuries. From the midninth century this work included the transcribing of the very oldest manuscripts:

“The Greek manuscripts up to the 9th century and sporadically in the 10th and early 11th centuries were written in majuscule writing, today’s capital letters, Few samples of manuscripts or fragments of manuscripts in majuscule writing are preserved to this day in the libraries of Mount Athos. The reason is that since the mid-9th century miniscule writing became predominant, and all the manuscripts of the previous centuries were transcribed in that writing and therefore became unused and little by little disappeared.” 2


By the time of the fall of Constantinople to the Ottoman Turks, in 1453, the bulk of these same NT manuscripts still existed in the East. As some Greek-speaking scholars fled West they carried with them copies of some of these NT manuscripts.

These few copies formed the basis of Erasmus’ first Greek New Testament.3 Tyndale’s New Testament, which still remains as a model of clarity4 is essentially based on Erasmus’ text. In 1550, an edition by Robert Stephanus was published, the third edition of which became one of the two ‘standard’ texts of the ‘Textus Receptus’ on which the King James Version is essentially based.

However, the majority of the Greek manuscripts of the new Testament remained in Greece at Mount Athos. The Moslem Turks allowed the work of the copyists at Mount Athos to continue during their occupation.


Conclusion

For those who hold to the inerrancy of Scripture, the Byzantine text form has long held an esteemed position over self-contradicting Western text forms such as the Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus: these last two often disagree with one another and so their witness is
unreliable.

By contrast, the Byzantine texts are in substantial agreement. They have a proven lineage. Indeed no other textual history stretching back centuries even exists elsewhere. Unambiguously from the 5th century onwards the focus for copyists and scholars was Mount Athos. And it is from this source that the ‘Patriarchal’ official text was taken.

1 www.inathos.gr/athos/uk/general/top.htm

2 Libraries and manuscripts in Mount Athos: A survey; Efthimios Litsas, Senior Researcher, Patriarchal Institute for Patristic Studies, Associate Professor of Paleography, Ionian Senior Cataloguer, Mount AthosManuscripts Digital Library, December 2001.

3 First edition published in 1516, subsequent revised editions in 1519, 1522, 1527 and 1535.

4 Witness his correct translation of ekklesia to ‘congregation’ rather than ‘church’, a word of very different etymology.

(source: http://kainh.homestead.com/files/noteptxt.pdf )

On 21 Dec 2011, at 21:23, maxi aguaisol wrote:

> Although my mails sent to you are rejected by "Sieve Systems", and some of you added mister Phelps to this conversation and he does not want to talk with me, or even answer my refutation of his anti-biblical racist doctrine, i will reply this mail of you.
>
> You can not prove it, mister Oxley. You can not prove that the Old Versions like the King James Version, are better translations than the New Versions, while i can prove that the opposite. Nevermind the scholars, which you wrongly name as "jesuits", without any proof whatsoever... Just see this partial list of several errors in the KJV http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/what-are-the-errors-in-king-james-version-bible.html
>
> I really do not care about the Copyright of the KJV owned by the British Crown, as i do not care about the Copyright of the NIV or any other version. I am sorry but the NASB and NIV are not false Bibles. I already checked the greek texts in both Alexandrian and Byzantine texts and found that you and the old versions are wrong about this issue. Or Jesus was crucified in a tree, Craig? Becouse that is what the KJV says. Maybe if you make some real investigation you would be not so much amazed.
>
> Of the Geneva i can promote the great marginal notes that the KJV taked away, yes. But there is still many errors of translation in that version. I am also amazed that an inteligent person like you can fall in this mis-translations like the KJV. NIV sect? By the way, i believe the NASB is a better version than the NIV. And now the christians that accept the new versions are heretics?
>
> Later you say that you "are from the lands were the Reformation originatred", well, let's see what Tyndale thinks about it. William Tyndale said in the preface of his first English New Testament that if anyone could find an inaccuracy that did not give the exact sense of the original language, he should correct it. Tyndale said, "remembering that so is their duty to do so." So even the same Tyndale disagree with you, mister Oxley.
>
> You can wonder if i am a Jesuit all the time that you want, but, please, we are not your slaves, presents some proof for your afirmations, becouse if not then we all will end calling us "jesuit" one to another. Remember GOD HATES the FALSE TESTIMONY. If a were a Jesuit i will not waste my time talking to nobody, but acting in the shadows like they do, not answering nothing. Again, you can doubt all you want, i also doubt, but i do not call every one that disagree with me a "jesuit".
>
> Maybe i must remind you what Matthew 12:36 says: "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."
>
> It seems that you forget that i was one of the first to attack and denounce the KJV-Onlytes/Richlings doctrines of Marco Ponce not so much different that the KJV-Onlysm of which i attack in this conversation. But i do not hate Marco, nor i hate you, nor i hate Eric, etc. I only believe you have some errors, that's all. I belive is an insult to all when you use the "Ad Hominem" logical falacy.
>
> If this would be a trial, and i a lawyer and you a prosecutor, i would be declared innocent. Never the less, i really do not care how you call me, the truth is that i respect you so much as i respect all the members of the "Anti-Jesuit Movement". Remember this is not an attack against you Craig. Is just i do not believe the arcaic translations are better than the new ones. I already saw the greek texts and i know what i saw.
>
> Yes, i come from South America. That's all you got? Come on, mister Oxley. Let's use documentation to back our statements.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brother Maxi from South America.

From: annunaki@fastmail.fm
To: dmaxi_gsl@hotmail.com; troy_space@me.com; avenueoflight@gmail.com; dougwill2001@yahoo.com; vsamuelbenitez@hotmail.com; eric@vaticanassassins.org
Subject: RE: All-Seeing Eye of Satan at oil painting of Francisco de Borgia made by Alonso Cano.
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:45:27 +0000

Claptrap Maxi, the only Bibles are the Lutheran, Geneva and King James Authorized. I do not care for so-called high Christian scholars who're up the arse of the Jesuits and their deceptions. Next you'll be saying that Charles Windsor's Green Bible is better than the KJV. Whether you like the fact of the Crown copyright or not doesn't mean you have to knock this Bible at all costs and bloody promote false Bibles. I wouldn't mind if you did what Troy has done and knock the KJV for the Geneva, thats acceptable even to a strong KJV follower somewhat, but to push those claptraps you're doing amazes me. I wonder just why you do not promote the Geneva bible and continue with his NIV heresy etc? Very strange indeed. At the end of the day I'm from the lands where the Reformation originated and it came from the Bibles mentioned not the NIV and therefore I wouldn't entertain one in the slightest and even if they were legit I'd rather a real Bible. I wonder if you're a Jesuit because you do not make any sense unless you were a Jesuit then it would make sense. Things you've done in the past have been topsy turvy also and thus I have doubts on you. Also you're from South America which is an arse wipe for the Emperor and I do not trust that land. You also came along with Marco Ponce who's turned out to be a right deviant and using swine.


On Wed, Dec 21, 2011, at 03:25 PM, maxi aguaisol wrote:

Have peace, mister Oxley.

Please, do not start calling me a "jesuit", because is False Testimony, and God hates it (Exodus 20:16). Remember what Proverbs 6:16-19 says: "These six things doth the LORD (Yahweh) hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."

I have only 24 years of age, i always lived here in the south of Argentina, where is no jesuit intitutions... I have pictures, documentations, and all this city as my witness that i was raised here, that i went to a public school, and in Buenos Aires to a public University. So, you do not have any proof that connects me with the Jesuit Order, so please, do not use the "you-are-a-jesuit" card with me. Of course, you can and will do whatever you want... is just a recommendation. Notice that this is exactly what i am talking about... is exactly this kind of behaviour, namely: to make afirmations without proofs, that we are called "Conspiracy THEORISTS" and not "Conspiracy Theoremists" or better yet, "Conspiracy Scientists".

In the same way like you i also believed, or was forced to believe, that doctrine that tells that "the new versions are satanical and jesuitical versions" (boooo). Later, i made my own homework and investigated this issue and saw that: Westcott & Hort weren't satanists, nor theosophists, nor spiritualists, nor homosexuals, that the Ghostly Guild was not different that the CE4 Research Group of Joseph Jordan, that the name Philological Society was named "Hermes" not for Westcott but by others much more later. If you learn some greek you will find that the King James Version wrongly translates many many versicles, while the New Versions like the NASB and NIV do not commit so much errors like those, and again, is not Maxi who is saying it but the majority of the more respectable christian scholars. If you stop to just accepting what the fanatics Riplingerists, Ruckmanists, and many others in the sect of the KJV-Onlyism say, you will find that this is true. I and many, many others had refuted that the New Versions of the Bible based in better manuscripts texts are "satanical" or even "jesuitical".

By example, mister Phelps say that becouse the Jesuit scholar José Maria Montini was part of a revision of the NIV therefore that means that that version is "jesuitical", but Phelps do not say (i do not if he knows it or not) that the New International Version as we know it today was finished in 1978, and a revision made by a group wich was conformed with at least one member of every mayor "christians" denominations, in which Montini was just one of them, was made in 1993! and nothing was changed! so Montini S.J. does not changed NOTHING of the NIV! , Please, documentate yourself about this, Craig.

I do not understand what you mean when you say "the sun does not shine" on the New Version of the Bible. ¿Do not have known Christ and was saved many thanks to these versions? Please, mister Craig, notice what this following article of Apologetics Index rightly says:

"Some KJV-onlyists go so far as to insist that people who do not use the King James Version (or even a specific edition of the King James Version) are not saved. In doing so they believe and teach a heresy -- one that violates the Biblical doctrine of salvation by adding conditions not taught in Scripture. [See: Essential doctrines of the Christian faith] Those KJV-Onlyists who teach this in so doing place themselves outside the boundaries of the Christian faith, and should be considered heretics.Many in the King James Only movement insist that there are conspiracies behind new Bible translations, meant to take away, diminish or introduce various doctrines.

Daniel B. Wallace, Executive Director for the Center for the Study of New Testament Manuscripts, responds:

"So, is there a conspiracy today? My answer may surprise the reader: yes, I believe there is. But the conspiracy has not produced these modern translations. Rather, I believe that there is a conspiracy to cause division among believers, to deflect our focus from the gospel to petty issues, to elevate an anti-intellectual spirit that does not honor the mind which God has created, and to uphold as the only Holy Bible a translation that, as lucid as it was in its day, four hundred years later makes the gospel seem antiquated and difficult to understand.2 It takes little thought to see who is behind such a conspiracy." - Source: Daniel B. Wallace [1] ,The Conspiracy Behind the New Bible Translationsoffsite "


In conclusion, mister Oxley, the new versions are good version, just do you homework and you will see it. Even Phelps say that in a discussion we must go to the greek, well, even using the Textvs Recetvs you will find that the KJV has errors, and that the New Versions not so much.

Have Greace and Peace,

Brother Maximiliano Aguaisol.

From: annunaki@fastmail.fm
To: dmaxi_gsl@hotmail.com; troy_space@me.com; avenueoflight@gmail.com; dougwill2001@yahoo.com; vsamuelbenitez@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: All-Seeing Eye of Satan at oil painting of Francisco de Borgia made by Alonso Cano.
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:48:01 +0000

You can stick those Bibles you mention where the sun does not shine, I only will deal with Geneva, Lutheran and KJV the rest are JESUITISM PERIOD! Are you a JESUIT Maxi? Well if not then stop acting like one and using FALSE BIBLES


On Tue, Dec 20, 2011, at 09:29 PM, maxi aguaisol wrote:

???????? Don't know really, but the new versions are good versions despite what kjv-onlytes cultists can claim without real proofs or without using misquotes and false testimony. Rightly the bests christians apologists and scholars use the new versions like the NASB or the NIV. "Anti-Jesuitism" is no necessarily equal to "Good Christian". Or did nobody finds it strange that a Seventh-day Adventist as Wilkinson was the first to preach the doctrine of KJV-Onlysm when this version contradicts much of what preaches this same sect? ...

M- Was Not Nessarily a Virgin?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-joel-hoffman/five-mistakes-bible-translation_b_1129620.html?ref=daily-brief?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=120911&utm_medium=email&utm_content=BlogEntry&utm_term=Daily%20Brief

excerpt

Starting about 2,300 years ago, the Hebrew Bible was translated into a Greek version now known as the Septuagint. One shortcoming of that translation is its inattention to near synonyms. For instance, the Hebrew words for "love," "mercy" and "compassion" are frequently mixed up, because they mean nearly the same thing. Likewise, because most young women in antiquity were virgins and most virgins were young women, the Septuagint wasn't careful to distinguish the words for "virgin" and "young woman" in translation.

This is how the Hebrew in Isaiah 7:14 -- which describes a young woman giving birth to a boy who will be named Emmanuel -- ended up in Greek as a virgin giving birth. Though these facts about Greek and Hebrew are generally undisputed among scholars, the translation error remains, both because people are usually unwilling to give up familiar translations, and also perhaps because the Gospel of Matthew describes the virgin birth of Jesus by quoting the mistaken Greek translation of Isaiah 7:14.

Metaphors are particularly difficult to translate, because words have different metaphoric meanings in different cultures. Shepherds in the Bible were symbols of might, ferocity and royalty, whereas now they generally represent peaceful guidance and oversight. So the image of the Lord as shepherd in Psalm 23 originally meant that the Lord was mighty, fierce and royal. The impact was roughly the same as "the Lord is a man of war." But in most English-speaking cultures, "the Lord is my shepherd" conveys a wholly different, and therefore inaccurate, image.

Similarly, kinship terms like "father," "brother," "sister," etc. were used in the Bible specifically to indicate power structure. This is why the romantic Song of Solomon -- the Bible's only full length treatise on relationships -- says "my sister, my bride" or "my sister, my spouse." On its face, that English translation is not only unromantic but in fact felonious. The original point, however, was that the woman in this relationship should be the man's equal.

Future Challenger

JKS- needs to know:

http://wwwfreespeechbeneathushs.blogspot.com/2007/11/wobble-effect-of-politics.html
http://continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.com/2009/07/wlodimir-ledochowski-kulturkampf_17.html
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2011/12/within-beltway.html



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/opinion/jfks-legacy-as-seen-by-his-grandson.html?_r=1

JFK's only grandson's first letter to the New York Times:

Letter to the Editors
From J.F.K.’s Grandson
Published: December 2, 2011

To the Editor:

As a young man inspired by politics and history who has spent time studying the Kennedy administration, I take issue with Ross Douthat’s Nov. 27 column, “The Enduring Cult of Kennedy,” about President John F. Kennedy, my grandfather.

Mr. Douthat suggests that President Kennedy was a “near disaster.” He criticizes Kennedy on civil rights; Kennedy was the first president to deem civil rights “a moral issue,” and applied federal authority to force desegregation.

The president described as “famously hawkish” resolved the Cuban Missile Crisis peacefully. Mr. Douthat does not mention what President Kennedy called his proudest accomplishment: the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.

Contrary to what Mr. Douthat asserts about the Vietnam War, in 1963, at American University, Kennedy stated that America would never start a war. Many who served in his administration, including Ted Sorensen and McGeorge Bundy, long argued that my grandfather would have never invaded Vietnam as Lyndon B. Johnson did.

Finally, I take issue with Mr. Douthat’s condescending view of the American people. He suggests that Americans who admire President Kennedy — and as Mr. Douthat points out, the majority of Americans rank him among our best presidents — do not understand their own history.

Instead, I suggest that President Kennedy’s legacy remains relevant today not because of Camelot or conspiracy, but because Americans find inspiration and meaning there.

JOHN KENNEDY SCHLOSSBERG
New Haven, Nov. 30, 2011

Newt Gingrich- Exemplifying the Romish Rot

http://www.thomasnash.com/making/gingrich.htm
Older Stock White who falls away from Protestantism to suck up to Rome

Months ago he was written up as a has-been, whose staff deserted his campaign for U.S. President; but now, in the wake of Herman Cain's campaign 'suspension' for adultery, Gingrich is increasingly considered the 'front runner', despite his past adultery with divorce twice. As with then U.S. President Bill Clinton 14 years ago, the controlled media is way friendlier to those most loyal to Rome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich

Gingrich is of German, English, Scottish, and Irish ancestry,[11] and was raised a Lutheran.[12

A Southern Baptist since graduate school, Gingrich converted to Catholicism, [his 3rd and current wife] Bisek's faith, on March 29, 2009.[145] He said "over the course of several years, I gradually became Catholic and then decided one day to accept the faith I had already come to embrace." The moment when he decided to officially become a Catholic was when he saw Pope Benedict XVI on his visit to the United States in 2008: "Catching a glimpse of Pope Benedict that day, I was struck by the happiness and peacefulness he exuded. The joyful and radiating presence of the Holy Father was a moment of confirmation about the many things I had been thinking and experiencing for several years."[146] Gingrich has stated that he has developed a greater appreciation for the role of faith in public life following his conversion, and believes that the United States has become too secular. At a 2011 appearance in Columbus, Ohio, he said, "In America, religious belief is being challenged by a cultural elite trying to create a secularized America, in which God is driven out of public life."[101]

Gingrich has been a prolific amateur reviewer of books, especially of military histories and spy novels, for Amazon.com. According to Katherine Mangu-Ward at The Weekly Standard, it is "clear that Newt is fascinated by tipping points—moments where new technology or new ideas cause revolutionary change in the way the world works".[147]

His 3rd and current wife Callista Bisek, is of Polish, and apparently German descent. I have seen internet acknowledgment of the former though not the latter (which I am assuming that Krause is German). I do not know if her entire family is Roman Catholic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callista_Gingrich

Gingrich was born Callista Louise Bisek to Alphonse Emil Bisek and Bernita (Krause) Bisek.[1] She graduated as valedictorian from Whitehall Memorial High School in Whitehall, Wisconsin, in 1984,[5] and cum laude from Luther College in Decorah, Iowa, in 1988.[4][6]

She is described as a devout Roman Catholic who lead him to convert, and is active with him in promoting a world-view of the Roman Catholic Church as a force that successfully fought communism.

Multimedia productions

Gingrich and her husband host and produce historical and public policy documentaries. Recent films include A City Upon a Hill,[7] America at Risk, Nine Days that Changed the World, Ronald Reagan: Rendezvous with Destiny, Rediscovering God in America, Rediscovering God in America II: Our Heritage, and We Have the Power.[8]

Gingrich is the voice for several audio books, including To Save America; Valley Forge; 5 Principles for a Successful Life; Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less; The Art of Transformation; Real Change; Contract with the Earth; and Rediscovering God in America.[4]

Gingrich's photography has been published in The New York Times and Washington Post and is featured in a photobook, Ronald Reagan: Rendezvous with Destiny, which she co-authored with Newt Gingrich and Dave Bossie.[9] Her photography is also featured in Rediscovering God in America and is regularly displayed on Newt.org and Gingrich Productions.com.[4]

Gingrich has authored a children’s book about American exceptionalism, entitled, Sweet Land of Liberty, featuring Ellis the Elephant.[4] The book was a New York Times Bestseller.[10][11]

Charitable work and other activities

Gingrich is the president of the Gingrich Foundation, a charitable nonprofit corporation. Among its charitable contributions, the Gingrich Foundation has established the Newt L. and Callista L. Gingrich Scholarship at Luther College in Decorah, Iowa, which provides annual scholarships for instrumental music majors.[12] She is a long-time member of the choir of the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, D.C.[13] and plays French horn with the City of Fairfax Band in Fairfax, Virginia.[14]

Newt Gingrich is the sort of "historian" who forgets why we had a reformation, and I'm not referring to that staged affair in Britain regarding King Henry XIII wanting a divorce. Likewise ignorant are the numerous 'evangelicals' who see him as the candidacy of "good".

The Gingrich's tightness with Rome should chill the spines of anyone conscious about the history of the 2nd 30 Years War of Religion.