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"LIMITED HANGOUT" STORY PAR EXCELLENCE: SABBATEAN SEYMOUR HERSH EXPOSES KNIGHTS OF MALTA & OPUS DEI WITHOUT REVEALING JESUIT-TRAINING OF KEY U.S. MILITARY MEN
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Pagasae 01/21/2011 02:53 PM
These two snippets from the story add some insight when viewed together:
"[Hersh] further claimed that Gen. Stanley McChrystal, Vice Admiral William McRaven and others in the JSOC were members of the "Knights of Malta" and "Opus Dei," two little known Catholic orders.
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"In an email to the military's Stars and Stripes publication, McChrystal's spokesman, David Bolger, panned Hersh's claim.
“The allegations recently made by Seymour Hersh relating to General McChrystal’s involvement with an organization called The Knights of Malta are completely false and without basis in fact,” he reportedly wrote. “General McChrystal is not and has never been a member of that organization.”
Translation: McCrystal is a member of Opus Dei but not of the Knights of Malta.
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Also worth considering regarding Hersh's coverage of the SMOM & Opus Dei links to US military top brass, but not to the high Jesuits who oversee the whole shebang & train many of these military leaders:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout
A limited hangout, or partial hangout, is a public relations or propaganda technique that involves the release of previously hidden information in order to prevent a greater exposure of more important details. It takes the form of deception, misdirection, or coverup often associated with intelligence agencies involving a release or "mea culpa" type of confession of only part of a set of previously hidden sensitive information, that establishes credibility for the one releasing the information who by the very act of confession appears to be "coming clean" and acting with integrity; but in actuality, by withholding key facts, is protecting a deeper operation and those who could be exposed if the whole truth came out. In effect, if an array of offenses or misdeeds is suspected, this confession admits to a lesser offense while covering up the greater ones.
A limited hangout typically is a response to lower the pressure felt from inquisitive investigators pursuing clues that threaten to expose everything, and the disclosure is often combined with red herrings or propaganda elements that lead to false trails, distractions, or ideological disinformation; thus allowing covert or criminal elements to continue in their improper activities.
Victor Marchetti wrote: "A 'limited hangout' is spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting - sometimes even volunteering - some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further."[1]
[See link above for more "limited hangout" examples, from the event that coined the term - Watergate]
General David Petraeus: Running the "Multi-National Security Transition Command Iraq" between 2004-2005 & the "Multi-National Force Iraq" 2007-2008, running US Central Command (CENTCOM: overseeing both Iraq & Afghanistan) & now heading Afghanistan operations replacing Opus Dei General Stanley McChrystal after the latter criticised Obama's Jesuit US Corporation Vice President Joe Biden. Petraeus was Jesuit-trained at Georgetown University's Edmund A Walsh School of Foreign Service:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patraeus#Education_and_academia
He also completed a military fellowship at Georgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service in 1994–1995, although he was called away early to serve in Haiti as the Chief of Operations for the UN force there in early 1995.
http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Gen._David_Petraeus
fellowship, Georgetown University.
Of course Petraeus' predecessor heading the the "Multi-National Force Iraq" from 2004-2007 & now the US Army Chief of Staff was & is General George William Casey, Jr., Jesuit-trained at Georgetown University's Edmund A Walsh School of Foreign Service:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Casey,_Jr.#Early_life_and_education
After high school, he earned his Bachelor of Science in international relations fromGeorgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service in 1970 and received his Master of Arts ininternational relations from the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1980.
^ "Managing the Army". Georgetown University. Retrieved 2010-07-17.
For more Jesuit "brothers" & their interlocking Papal-loyal knighthood & secret society network fellows see:
http://realityresearch.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/partial-list-of-vatican-loyal-suspected-911-orchestrators-executors/
For more Knights of Malta/Opus Dei types involved in Iraq over the past decade (such as Blackwater/Xe/Total Intelligence Solutions luminaries Eric Prince, Cofer Black & Joseph E. Schmitz) see for example:
http://www.therowboat.com/articles/BlackwaterCrusade.pdf
Posted with added info & comments at the following page - even some Catholics have started exposing these links:
http://enlightenedcatholicism-colkoch.blogspot.com/2009/08/eric-prince-supporter-of-legion-of.html
The most curious comment here was the last one, suggesting what has been demonstrated in the work of author Jeff Sharlet (see his book "The Family") that there are links between influential ostensibly "Protestant" cliques & Rome via Opus Dei. Quite frankly the truth is no doubt somewhere in the middle as groups of psychopaths will use religion to pursue quite Christ-opposing actions & call themselves whatever they want:
Anonymous said...
let's be clear. Erik Prince is not a Catholic truly. He is Dutch Reformed through and through (Calvinist) and takes his religious zealot behavior from his mother and his philandering and womanizing from his father. He only became RC to marry his first wife, which was a huge scandal in the Prince house and another story.
Connections? look at who was at his first wedding as a start. it just got deeper after that.
January 1, 2010 8:18 AM
So whatever you want to call & whatever religious or spiritual philosophy is used to describe such pyschopathic, oligarchic, genocidal elitists (POGE's) as Prince & cohorts the fact is that they are undisputably POGE's.
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/highranking-members-military-part-knights-malta-opus-dei-reporter-claims/
High-ranking members of US military part of ‘Knights of Malta,’ ‘Opus Dei,’ reporter claims
By Stephen C. Webster
Friday, January 21st, 2011 -- 12:28 pm
Veteran investigative reporter Seymour Hersh has broken some massive stories in his day, but uncovering secret societies within the highest echelons of America's military would probably be the biggest of his career.
Well, get ready for the media storm, because that's essentially what Hersh told an audience in Doha, Qatar recently, according to a report published earlier this week by Foreign Policy.
Speaking at a campus operated by Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service, Hersh said he was working on a new book that details "how eight or nine neoconservative, radicals if you will, overthrew the American government."
"It's not only that the neocons took it over but how easily they did it -- how Congress disappeared, how the press became part of it, how the public acquiesced," he continued, according to the published quotes.
Hersh also lamented President Obama's continuance of the Bush administration's worst abuses.
"Just when we needed an angry black man, we didn't get one," he reportedly said.
The Foreign Policy report added that in 2003, those "in the Cheney shop" were not concerned about the havoc the invasion of Iraq was destined to cause.
"[The] attitude was, 'What's this? What are they all worried about, the politicians and the press, they're all worried about some looting?" Hersh was quoted as saying. "Don't they get it? We're gonna change moseques into cathedrals. And when we get all the oil, nobody's gonna give a damn.' That's the attitude. We're gonna change mosques into cathedrals. That's an attitude that pervades, I'm here to say, a large percentage of the Joint Special Operations Command [JSOC]."
He further claimed that Gen. Stanley McChrystal, Vice Admiral William McRaven and others in the JSOC were members of the "Knights of Malta" and "Opus Dei," two little known Catholic orders.
"They do see what they're doing -- and this is not an atypical attitude among some military -- it's a crusade, literally," Hersh reportedly continued. "They see themselves as the protectors of the Christians. They're protecting them from the Muslims [as in] the 13th century. And this is their function."
He added that members of these societies have developed a secret set of insignias that represent "the whole notion that this is a culture war" between religions.
It was President George W. Bush who first invoked images of a holy war in the Middle East, when he suggested soon after Sept. 11, 2001 that the US was on a "crusade" in the region.
The "Knights of Malta" were a Catholic order founded in 1085 as a group of monks who cared for the wounded. It evolved into a military order that safeguarded Christian pilgrims from Muslims during the nine "Crusades," where Europe's Christian states laid siege to Muslims for control of Jerusalem.
"Opus Dei," popularly depicted in the Hollywood film "The DaVinci Code," was founded in 1928 and officially accepted as part of the Catholic church in 1947. The group's website claimed their principle calling was to bring about a "Christian renewal" around the world.
Doubts, denials and a distinctive trend
Raw Story reached out to Hersh and The New Yorker to confirm the accuracy of his quotes, placing this report on hold until they responded. Both declined to make any further statement, neither confirming nor denying the quotes.
However, one source close to Hersh who spoke to Raw Story off the record, suggested that Foreign Policy's report was indeed correct.
Raw Story followed-up on the quotes due to a widely-reported false claim attributed to Hersh in May 2009, where he'd allegedly said former Vice President Dick Cheney ordered the assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.
The report, which appeared to have originated in Pakistan, was picked up by The Wall Street Journaland the conservative-leaning American Spectator,but both removed the links after Raw Story published a denial from Hersh. A link to Raw Story's original report was unavailable due to a database malfunction.
Hersh, a Pulitzer-winning author and reporter, has previously reported that the JSOC was set up by former Vice President Cheney as something of an "executive assassination squad" that operated outside of congressional authority.
Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who resigned after Rolling Stone reporter Michael Hastingsquoted him mocking the US civilian command, led JSOC before taking command of America's war effort in Afghanistan.
In an email to the military's Stars and Stripes publication, McChrystal's spokesman, David Bolger, panned Hersh's claim.
“The allegations recently made by Seymour Hersh relating to General McChrystal’s involvement with an organization called The Knights of Malta are completely false and without basis in fact,” he reportedly wrote. “General McChrystal is not and has never been a member of that organization.”
The religious indoctrination of US soldiers has been in headlines in recent weeks as soldiers who "failed" the "spiritual fitness" portion of the "comprehensive soldier fitness" test claimed they were forced to attend Christian ceremonies and become "born again" by professing love for the Christian deity.
Similarly, GQ magazine uncovered last year a series of top-secret military briefings prepared by former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld that included passages from the Bible.
Trijicon Inc., a defense contractor, was also discovered last January to have been for years placing scriptural references on gun sights used by the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Their actions revealed Trijicon was forced to provide the Pentagon with kits to remove the codes.
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http://www.stripes.com/news/mcchrystal-denies-claims-of-secret-military-crusade-against-islam-1.132473
McChrystal denies claims of secret military crusade against Islam
By JEFF SCHOGOL
Stars and Stripes
Published: January 21, 2011
Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal denies there is a secret military crusade against Islam.
PABLO MARTINEZ MONSIVAIS/THE ASSOCIATED PRESSWASHINGTON — Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal says he is not part of a religious order waging war on Islam despite recent assertions by acclaimed journalist Seymour Hersh.
Speaking in Qatar earlier this week, Hersh claimed that McChrystal and current members of the special operations community are members of the Knights of Malta and Opus Dei, both Catholic organizations, according to the blog Foreign Policy.
“They do see what they’re doing — and this is not an atypical attitude among some military — it’s a crusade, literally,” Foreign Policy quoted Hersh as saying. “They see themselves as the protectors of the Christians. They’re protecting them from the Muslims [as in] the 13th century. And this is their function.”
Hersh won a Pulitzer Prize in 1970 for exposing the My Lai massacre in Vietnam and the subsequent military coverup.
But McChrystal’s spokesman, David Bolger, said Hersh was way off base in this case.
“The allegations recently made by Seymour Hersh relating to General McChrystal’s involvement with an organization called The Knights of Malta are completely false and without basis in fact,” Bolger said in an e-mail. “General McChrystal is not and has never been a member of that organization.”
Prior to his stint as the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, McChrystal served as the head of Joint Special Operations Command.
Officials with U.S. Special Operations Command declined to comment on Hersh’s allegations.
Stars and Stripes was unable to reach the officials with the Knights of Malta, but a spokesman for Opus Dei said the group is meant to help Christians find God, not to fight Islam.
“We have a number of activities: So it would be classes on Catholic doctrine, teaching people about the Catholic faith, and there’s classes about how to live that faith in the everyday world,” said group spokesman David Gallagher. “We have weekend retreats.”
Opus Dei was portrayed in “The Da Vinci Code” as a secret society, but Gallagher noted that it has a website and an office in Manhattan.
“I don’t think it’s too secret,” he said.
Hersh told Stars and Stripes he has proof to back up his claims but he declined to provide any because he is writing a book that will touch on the subject and revealing his evidence before the book is published would be “unethical.”
He added that it is impossible to be around special operations troops and not notice just how religious they are.
But one former Green Beret and defense official disputed the notion that there is a religious cabal inside special operations.
Religion is considered very personal and rarely discussed among special operators, said Kalev “Gunner” Sepp, a Special Forces officer from 1986 to 1999 and deputy assistant secretary of defense for special operations and counterterrorism from 2007 to 2009.
There have been exceptions, such as one Special Forces commander who gave church sermons while in uniform, but such practices have not been widely embraced, Sepp said.
“Zealotry is viewed as being unprofessional,” he said. “Anyone who professes religion in an open way like that is suspect to where their real loyalties lie.”
jeffrey.schogol@stripes.osd.mil
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