Monday, March 10, 2014

PUTIN Crimea Seizure Breaks Taboo of Revising Post WW2 Borders

born October 7- same birthday as Wlodimir Ledochowski

Avles Beluskes aka Edoardo Roncelli writes
It is alleged that Russia and EU acted together. With the most of probability to a Germany which, after the WWI and WWII, has been reduced to a Great Catholic Bavaria, is it now allowed to exercise a diminished form of expansionism or is allured by someone to take pleasure in such dreams. If Putin can bring home Crimea someone can think that then is possible to bring home also the Sudeten and Eastern Prussia. And then there's Italy and her "Crimea" which is called "Istria and Dalmazia"...  If Russia went back in Crimea could Renzi's Italy go back in Istria?... After seventy years of forced de-protestantization of Prussia maybe the Vatican can bear now a Germany coming back in the old possession of East.... Or at least this could be only a bait to further deceive the German foreign policy and distract Germans meanwhile the South European Catholic belt is going to explode in a sort of "South European Confederate popish state" against the North....

Crimea.  Annexed by Russia in 1783.  Transferred in 1954 to Ukraine to help solidify its loyalty to Russia.  It's become the flashpoint of an order that was not destined to be so permanent- of Ukraine being all with Russia.

In more recent centuries that came a process starting in the 1600s to counter the alternative attachment to the west with the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which in response to the Roman Catholic St. Bartholemew Day Massacre of Protestants in France, enacted the Warsaw Confederation guarantee of religious liberty in order to prevent such an occurrence within Poland.  This sort of religious toleration was opposed by the Roman Catholic Church, which had sought various methods for extending its territory in Poland, particularly the 1596 creation of the 'Greek Catholic' - easter orthodox in appearance with loyalty to Rome.  Hence, as Rome would respond to the Reformation of Martin Luther, it came up with the Jesuits, who chose the strategy of sacrificing Poland with the K Rebellion and the subsequent partitions that occurred with both Prussia and Russia's harboring of the Jesuit Order during its formal 1774 suppression.   Indeed, the partition of Poland were but part of the recreation of the northern extension of the Eastern Roman Empire established in 880 or so with the Rus conquest of the Kiev Polans- by the mid 900s redefining these Polans as Rus.  Such an entity that became Russia from Moscow would effectuate this relatively beginning under the Czars but viciously genocidal under the Bolshevik regime, murdering people throughout the old Commonwealth lands for being of some part Polish ethnicity.  Recall the Stalinist targeting of the KulAKS.  Read the book The Bloodlands.  And recall how the borders shifted with WW2 how that ultimately targeted Protestant majority Lutheran Eastern Germany.

Flash forward to February 22, 2014.  A regime change was effectuated in Kiev, via a "Maidan-Europe" movement that came with the support of the German and Polish governments that just popped up in mid November- apparently approved just days after the largest hurricane in recorded history.

So now Ukraine, which in 1991 became a separate country, has a government more leaning eastward to Russia than westward to Europe or say Poland.   Note how the electorial, linquistic and political boundaries practically conform to the border of the old Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

  See the red dots of Polish ethnicity that merely counts language and would include more if applied to people of part-Polish ethnicity- Polish referring to that from the west, and not the Polans who were redefined as "Rus"

Note the areas of modern day Ukraine outside the Commonwealth.

As the map makes clear, there is a strong correlation between the parts of Ukraine once controlled by Poland-Lithuania and the parts of Ukraine that today vote for pro-Westerners such as Mr. Yushchenko. Although Poland-Lithuania is long gone, the vestiges of Polish influence still exist in these places, drawing western and central Ukraine closer to the West than eastern Ukraine and the Black Sea region. [emphasis added]

A few years later an agreement for Ukraine to surrender its nukes with its territorial integrity to be respected.   In all this time, Crimea remains a part of Ukraine as it had since 1954, even as it like much of eastern and to a lesser degree southern Ukraine is majority Russian loyal.

from Huffington Post
Presumably a deal can be made. Putin had evinced no interest in Russian control of Crimea so long as the government in Kiev was neutral between East and West, and permanently detaching it from Ukraine tilts the country's electoral balance decisively toward the Russoskeptics. An international accord that guarantees a democratic Ukraine's territorial integrity and bars it from any military alliance, on the Finnish and Austrian model, will likely be at the heart of a resolution. And if Putin decides to proceed with Crimea's incorporation into Russia, he is signing off on NATO membership for Kiev, and other countries can permanently reject visa applications from Crimea or economic transactions with it.
But just wait, as Russia seeks and works to recover more of Ukraine, in the east and the south, and this escalates, ultimately with NATO forces from the west via Poland and Romania.


avles said...

avles said...

"......After the Mongol invasion of Rus the histories of the Russian and Ukrainian people's started to diverge.[7] The former, having successfully united all the remnants of the Rus' northern provinces, swelled into a powerful Russian state. The latter came under the domination of Poland (later, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth). Within the Commonwealth, the militant Zaporozhian Cossacks refused polonization, and often clashed with the Commonwealth government, controlled by the Polish nobility. Unrest among the Cossacks caused them to rebel against the Commonwealth and seek union with Russia, with which they shared much of the culture, language and religion. which was eventually formalized through the Treaty of Pereyaslav in 1654 .[8] From the mid-17th century Ukraine was gradually absorbed into the Russian Empire, which was completed in the late 18th century with the Partitions of Poland. Soon afterward in the late 18th century the Cossack host was forcibly disbanded by the Empire, with most of the population relocated to the Kuban region in the South edge of the Russian Empire, where the Cossacks served a valuable role of defending the Empire against the fierce Caucasian tribes........"

avles said...

Interesting to note other similarities between maps but before see the Cossacks:

".......The Polish government could not control the fiercely independent Cossacks, but since they were nominally subjects of the Commonwealth, it was held responsible for raids by their victims........."

But no matter, guilty is alwyas the Commonwealth's "arrogance":

"...The waning loyalty of the Cossacks and the szlachta's arrogance towards them resulted in several Cossack uprisings against the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in the early 17th century..."

See the map:

avles said...

The Cossacks dancing now in Crimea's towns sent by Putin are further gasoline to ignite war, Kremlin wants back all Center and South Ukraine and pushing for ethnic war:

"...The Cossacks' strong historic allegiance to the Eastern Orthodox Church put them at odds with the Catholic-dominated Commonwealth. Tensions increased when Commonwealth policies turned from relative tolerance to suppression of the Orthodox church, making the Cossacks strongly anti-Catholic, which at the time was synonymous with anti-Polish..."

avles said...

Friday, April 4, 2014

From the Strait of Hormuz to the Arctic circle.

avles said...

"Nazi Polish" snipers, alibi for invasion of Ukraine?

Among Ukraine’s Jews, the Bigger Worry Is Putin, Not Pogroms