Sunday, August 10, 2008

Wlodimir (Vladimir) Ledochowski Planned Well

and was able to remedy "the Jewish Question" in his home country


http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=62828

Eric,

From the official history it is indeed summed up that all the killing was done by Germans and Lithuanian, Ukrainian, and assorted other auxiliaries either in camps or in the field. There was complicity of the the peoples of the East during the German invasion in rounding up and even
killing Jews. But I have come, as I mentioned to you in recent conversation, to believe that Stalin prepared the ground for the Einsatzgruppen and when these shooting teams and police units moved in they not only possessed lists of the Jews to be rounded up, but possibly even the physical apparatus necessary to do the work left behind by the Stalinists. It seems that bulldozers and other earth moving equipment were never wanting when it was time to cover a pile of corpses in the East.

As I had recently discovered that Vilnius (Vilna) had a Jesuit University founded there in 1570 that was in 1579 given official charter by King Stephen of Poland, and that this, the capital city of Lithuania just happened to have an unfinished fuel storage site on its outskirts with deep circular declivities which became the mass graves for the area's considerable Jewish population. Richard Rhodes in his book Masters of Death has a page of photographs of this site in the center photo section of his book. I have also culled this citation from the web site: http://www.bh.org.il/Communities/Archive/Vilna.asp

It reads: "Vilna, In Lithuanian Vilnius, in Polish Wilno, in Russian Vilna, in Yiddish Vilne, capital city of Lithuania. From 1323 capital of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, between the two World Wars, a district town in Poland, then capital of the Lithuanian S.S.R. from 1940 until 1991. Called by East European Jewry, especially in the modern period, the "Jerusalem of Lithuania" (Yerushalayim de-Lita).

Early History

The first information of an organized Jewish community in Vilna dates from 1568, when it was ordered to pay the poll tax. In February 1633 the Jews of Vilna were granted a charter of privileges permitting them to engage in all branches of commerce, distilling, and any crafts not subject to the guild organizations, but restricting their place of residence in the city.

During the first half of the 17th century the Vilna community was augmented by arrivals from Prague, Frankfort, and Polish towns, who included wealthy emigrants and scholars. In this period about 3,000 Jewish residents are recorded out of a total population of some 15,000. Although the Vilna community, now an important Jewish entity, claimed the status of a principal community, or "Community Head of the Courts" (Kehillah Rosh Beth Din), within the organizational framework of the Council of Lithuania (Vaad Lita), the status was not conceded until 1652. During the uprising against Russia in 1794 a number of Vilna Jews de monstrated their loyalty to Poland in the fighting and the Kahal made contributions to the participants in the uprising. After the conquest of the city by the Russians, however, the Jewish position in commerce and crafts improved.

A Center of Torah Learning

Vilna had already become a preeminent center for rabbinical studies by the beginning of the 17th century. Among the scholars born in Vilna were Joshua Hoeschel Ben Joseph and Shabbetai Ha-Kohen, who served as dayyan of the community. The Rabbi of Vilna in the middle of the 17th century was Moses B. Isaac Judah Lima. Among the scholars of Vilna in the second half of the 17th century and the beginning of the 18th were R. Moses, called Kremer, his son-in-law Joseph, author of Rosh Yosef, Halakhic and Aggadic novellas; R. Baruch Kahana, known as Baruch Charif; the grammarian Azriel and his two sons Nisan and Elijah, and Zvi Hirsch Kaidanover. From the second half of the 18th century the personality and activities of Eliyahu ben Solomon Zalman, the Gaon of Vilna, who attracted numerous disciples, had a lasting impact on Vilna Jewry. The circle thus formed became the most stimulating religious and spiritual center there and had a profound influence on Judaism, especially in the domains of the Halakhah and Kabbalah."

Further, this Jewish website also states that Vilna was a center of Jewish Zionist and Socialist activity. Hence, it is no unreasonable conclusion to believe that the Order made sure Stalin had large burial pits ready, covering the work as an official state project for fuel storage, so that the killers would be able in one fell swoop to destroy this "Jerusalem of the East." Notice that the reference shows the Jews being registered as such for taxation a mere two years before acknowledged Jesuit presence (Catholic and Jesuit presence obviously preceded the University in its official founding), which was for a period of time unable to check Jewish population growth, but Ledochowski planned well and was able to remedy "the Jewish Question" in his home country. Jesuit prior planning indeed prevented poor performance in this area of operation, and this confluence of facts corroborates your thesis in this e-mail of a deep complicity between these sons of Belial, Hitler, Stalin, and t he Jesuit. A major center of Hebrew economic, religious and social life was destroyed in a most sinister and orderly manner.

In the faith of Christ,

Pastor Turner

2 comments:

avles said...

"...But I have come, as I mentioned to you in recent conversation, to believe that Stalin prepared the ground for the Einsatzgruppen and when these shooting teams and police units moved in they not only possessed lists of the Jews to be rounded up, but possibly even the physical apparatus necessary to do the work left behind by the Stalinists..."
Maybe this is related to the (in German named) "Flackbefehl" = Order Torch, with which Stalin in 1941 (I quote a book of the German denier Joachim Nolywaika - original title "Die deutsche Wehrmacht - Im Brennpunkt des Geschehens'35-'45")ordered to special squads to disguise as German soldiers and to commit atrocities to be then assigned to the Wehrmacht. This is a beloved topic of the nowadays Hitlerians. I always knew that the Red Army destroyed during the retreat in 1941 many structures, or that was what they told us. Probably a mixed tactic. Somewhere was useful to instigate hate against Germans, in other zones to prepare the field for the Nazis. To kill Jews disguised as 'Germans' could have been a very keen trick, helping the Ledochowsky double goals, i.e. extermination of Jews blaming the Germans (=Protestants)for this at the same time.

Douglas A. Willinger said...

"To kill Jews disguised as 'Germans' could have been a very keen trick, helping the Ledochowsky double goals, i.e. extermination of Jews blaming the Germans (=Protestants)for this at the same time."

Note that many Jewish peoples in Eastern Europe had Germanic names, even if they were not part German.